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i started getting pretty deep into this

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i don't know

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part of me felt good taking walks in the

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woods near my cabin trying to figure

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this out

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and i decided that i need to get a fresh

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perspective

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i've been listening to people that agree

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with me too much so i wanted to try to

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get somebody that maybe believes in

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cryptids is really interested and

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invested in cryptic creatures

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so

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i i kind of went looking and came up

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empty but

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i did know that there was this guy bobby

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from that one time i was abducted by

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aliens podcast

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uh every once in a while those girls

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brought on this guy to do a show about

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cryptid creatures

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and he seemed really interested and

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engaged and knowledgeable about all of

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this stuff

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so i thought maybe

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yeah we we got to bring in a guy like

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that and just hear what he has to say

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about the footage

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uh i was lucky to get him

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to come here and uh you know just tell

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me what he thinks of the footage and

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this is one of those times where all the

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stars just kind of align

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and you know somebody that can

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contribute to

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the project you're working on this was

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one of those times

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and i was fortunate and

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hey i got to take you guys with me

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uh into this uh largely uncensored

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conversation

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you are extremely knowledgeable about

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all different cryptid creatures around

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pendick and you know that the dinosaurs

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and the loch ness monsters and and all

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of this stuff

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so i i wanted to ask you to look at this

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footage and just give your general

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thoughts on

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cod standing in general and and this

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is this the face of bigfoot

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can i um can i kind of preface a little

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bit before we jump into the footage sure

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absolutely

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um so i was thinking about this a lot

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since you asked me to do this one thing

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i want to bring up

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um

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strangeness conspiracy whatever you want

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to call it

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um we talk a lot about how even the most

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establishment science or academia or

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media we're very quick to

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point out that they're not immune to

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corruption or agenda right

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um

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and maybe it is the best that we have

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all things considered we agree on a

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dominant consensus about things

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and kind of work from there

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you have people in these institutions um

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and it's no secret that are motivate

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motivated by things other than you know

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and i think even todd alludes to this a

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little bit in his documentary as well

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um but these people have more or less

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dedicated their their lives to

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presenting evidence to construct a

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dominant narrative based on their

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um and inherently i think that this

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always is on some level at least an

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element of ego on the line sometimes an

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agenda sometimes monetary incentives um

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fringe theories that that challenge the

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often seem to respond with resistance or

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um names like graham hancock and robert

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um but ultimately

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what these people these i guess

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guardians of the status quo is is

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they're protecting their legacy or their

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agenda or their credibility

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or their influence or their source of

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income whatever it may be

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um and i think it's important for us

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people that are that are seriously

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serious about uh seeking truth and this

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is that this phenomenon if you want to

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it doesn't have to be exclusive and it

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isn't only exclusive to i guess like

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dominant mainstream institutions

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to intentional or even unintentional

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all that said if we apply this model

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interruptions in the science if you will

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um i think everyone's capable of

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rationalizing i think a lot of ins

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justifying the means kind of things go

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but everyone's capable of doubling down

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when they're faced with opposition to

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their claims

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um so i guess my point is if we're going

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to be cognizant of of human nature and

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corruption with with dominant

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institutions as we are quickly to do

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it's only fair to to practice that level

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of discernment for

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individuals as well

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does that make sense yeah fair enough

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um so all that said you know i'm

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speaking in generalities here i want to

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be careful and i want to look at this

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footage as diplomatically as possible i

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am not a field researcher i'm not a

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scientist by any stretch of imagination

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um i'm just a guy that's been into these

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type types of topics for as long as i

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can remember so over the years i've just

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kind of snowballed my knowledge here and

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there and for whatever reason it's

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filled my brain up yeah i figured that

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you would be qualified to look at this

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to look at this footage and offer your

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opinion because you have digested all of

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the available evidence mostly of

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different cryptic creatures and and the

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different things throughout the years

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and maybe some of the bigfoot hoaxes as

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so so i wanted to get your opinion of

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what you think of the actual footage is

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it the face of bigfoot or something else

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not interested in uh you know the

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politics of high strangeness if you will

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but uh i can i can look at this in a

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vacuum as a as a person and try to uh

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give you my thoughts on it

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so where did you want to begin i've i've

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um let's let me take a look at the um

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i guess we'll start with part one let me

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yeah and i call this bigfoot face one

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so just looking at that in a vacuum if

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we're looking at this with a discerning

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confirmation bias because i'm not a

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full-blown believer per se because i

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personally haven't experienced anything

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of all the face footage provided by this

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gentleman um

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i for better or worse i guess it's i

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guess it's the most compelling yeah this

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is the best one i guess i i thought the

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same thing at a high bar right um

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there's no reason why that's can't be

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prosthetics or spirit gum i feel like

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having shot this yeah like bigfoot has

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hairspray somehow right it's got it's

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um and then i i'm i'm i'm shutting out

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all the you know attempts that i've seen

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his face on top of this and all that but

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this uh as far as face

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footage to be a real bigfoot more than

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todd standing himself it's me

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so you know right

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you know providing all this evidence as

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a bundle doesn't necessarily do it

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doesn't necessarily help your case

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because i can kind of 50 50 give the

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benefit of the doubt to that first one

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this reminds me there is a scene

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in return of the jedi where c-3po is

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describing to the ewoks the uh

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the story of the explosion of the first

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death star and there's a quick shot of a

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little baby ewok shuddering in fear and

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it doesn't look exactly like this but it

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definitely reminds me

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yeah ewok vibes yeah yeah i get bad ewok

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vibes and here's the thing and i'm gonna

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bring it up with the with the blackface

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one as well is like

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there's no consistency here to

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together as like the same species per se

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you think there would be

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a little more continuity as to make

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these things look like they're the same

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you know species right yeah yeah that

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was my thought as well they look like

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totally separate species

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you know there's the problem that i have

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and i and i i like that point you raised

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that putting these together actually

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raises more questions

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than than it than it supports his case

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because you know all orangutans have the

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skin tone all gorillas have the same

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general skin color skin tone

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these things all are different and and

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that doesn't make sense to me if it's

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the same species of of cryptid creature

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so so yeah considering the let's let's

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say let's say

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the this all is legitimate footage of a

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relic hominid right let's pretend that

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it definitely is

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it's very unfortunate

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that that is what they look like if

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given

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you know trying to convince someone that

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it is real right so like

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you know what i'm trying to say so it's

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like there's no again there's no

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consistency they all look like like if

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in the the the response from someone

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presenting this as real audience would

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would typically be something like well

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bigfoots are a lot like people and they

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look different in different regions i've

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heard that argument i've heard that yeah

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they're individuals they're individuals

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of it but as far as i know this is all

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the footage from the from the

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documentary and it's supposedly in the

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same location and it's supposed to be

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the same tribe of bigfoot yeah

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yeah

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i todd standing i want it to be real and

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i want to get on board but jeez louise

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yeah

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we could go to the we go to the third

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one then okay uh so this is the

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blackfaced man or blackface bigfoot

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oh yeah thoughts on this one yeah me too

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but uh here i i don't want to influence

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any of our you know people that are

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offering their opinions so i'm waiting

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to hear what you have to say about this

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before before i'll chime in with any of

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my own opinions

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and i i'll show you something after

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we're finished you know uh looking at

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this because i i thought that i nailed

329
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exactly how he did this but i was

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um

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the first thing i'll say is

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and i'm going to say this about the the

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movement

334
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footage as well where it's not the faces

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but

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um the first thing i'll say about this

337
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is there's absolutely no reason why that

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um i don't even i don't even think a

339
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mask is necessary to to create that

340
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what we're seeing there

341
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um the other big red flag with this one

342
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for me was the hairline so that if you

343
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look at the hairline from the first

344
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footage and even the little ewok one

345
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uh

346
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unless this guy has like male pattern

347
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balding going on yeah it's a bald

348
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bigfoot yeah like hogan hair or

349
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something but if you if you look at the

350
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first one from the same tribe it's it's

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got hair all the way down to the brow

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and this one seems to just have a

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pronounced forehead with um you know

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charcoaly skin

355
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again the big thing for me though uh

356
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outside of

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providing the evidence as a group is the

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fact that that you know even if that is

359
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a real face of a real bigfoot

360
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in context there's no reason why it

361
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couldn't

362
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be a human right

363
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i agree

364
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that is not something that's difficult

365
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to to create we could do that in the

366
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backyard

367
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yeah this is exactly what i thought and

368
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i i believed at first that it was

369
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perhaps just a mask a black-faced mask

370
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but

371
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when i looked at it further i i believe

372
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that it's a human

373
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with black grease paint or you know

374
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charcoal some some form of makeup

375
00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:21,360
that and and then again it makes no

376
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sense to me that these other bigfoot

377
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creatures from the same tribe have a

378
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totally it's like is this the

379
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african-american version of that bigfoot

380
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i i don't understand like why is his

381
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skin completely totally black like a

382
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gorilla

383
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and all of the others have

384
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you know

385
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much lighter skin tone or skin color

386
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yeah in

387
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it's it's

388
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really baffling

389
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i mean the more we talk about this the

390
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more it gets

391
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uh

392
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dodgier because the more i think about

393
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why wouldn't okay

394
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if it was

395
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if you were going to do a hoax

396
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which i will not say one way or the

397
00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:00,959
other i'm just giving you my opinion on

398
00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:02,720
the footage but if you were gonna do a

399
00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:05,519
hoax and present it as one package

400
00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:06,880
why wouldn't you think about these

401
00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:08,720
things beforehand

402
00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,519
yeah

403
00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:11,600
it's almost like the inverse of it's

404
00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:13,600
very similar to like the patty uh you

405
00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:15,600
know how patty in the patterson gimlin

406
00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:17,600
film has like breasts and people like

407
00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:19,279
well why would she have breasts if it

408
00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:21,600
was a hoax it was like i i that one

409
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:23,600
thing really always bothered me because

410
00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:24,720
i like

411
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i go why would they if they're trying to

412
00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:29,120
make a hoax yeah why would they put

413
00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:30,959
breasts on this thing but then i thought

414
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what an excellent convincer

415
00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:34,320
you know right

416
00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:37,279
so this is almost like a twisted

417
00:15:39,749 --> 00:15:38,959
weird

418
00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:39,759
yeah logic

419
00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:42,079
some weird way uh as far as presenting

420
00:15:46,389 --> 00:15:44,399
the evidence that we're looking at here

421
00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:46,399
i think there's a similar uh thread

422
00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:48,240
between those those two uh lines of

423
00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:49,759
thought so yeah i think the breasts and

424
00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:51,360
the patterson gimlin film definitely

425
00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:53,600
lend it credibility whereas

426
00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:56,480
you know it's almost like

427
00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:59,279
we intentionally made these not look

428
00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:00,720
real so that you would think that they

429
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:03,120
were real i don't i don't know

430
00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:05,519
yeah mind [\h__\h] if you ask me

431
00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:09,120
yeah and so the last one the last money

432
00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:12,160
shot from the documentary and again i

433
00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:14,480
you know uh we we took all of the money

434
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:16,320
shots what i'm calling the money shots

435
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:19,440
from the documentary and we are uh you

436
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:21,839
know i we just zoomed in a little bit

437
00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:24,000
cleaned it up try to make it clearer

438
00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:26,639
this last footage to me is is the worst

439
00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:28,639
of it and i just call this running man

440
00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:30,160
footage because

441
00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:32,240
there's something off in the background

442
00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:33,680
and you can't really

443
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:36,160
you can't clearly see is it somebody in

444
00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:39,440
a guinea suit or you know a camo suit or

445
00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:42,240
is it somebody in a in a gorilla suit

446
00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:44,639
who knows it's just it's it's not great

447
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:46,639
footage but i wanted to see what you

448
00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:48,880
thought of that as well because to me

449
00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:51,199
this one was the weakest i thought

450
00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:53,120
it could be anything running in the

451
00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:54,639
background there

452
00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:56,560
and and the framing of it seems

453
00:17:01,990 --> 00:16:58,399
convenient like

454
00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,000
he he can't get the thing in frame

455
00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:04,319
yeah you think your your instinct would

456
00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:05,679
be to

457
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,959
tilt up

458
00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:08,400
quite a bit more than if you look at the

459
00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:10,640
very beginning of it you can clearly see

460
00:17:14,549 --> 00:17:12,160
there's something walking up a mountain

461
00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:14,559
but the but there's not an immediate

462
00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,039
attempt to

463
00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:19,679
tilt up and then you know again i mean

464
00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:21,120
this is just like

465
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:22,400
there's no reason

466
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:26,799
immediately jump to bigfoot there's just

467
00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:27,760
not

468
00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:28,799
um

469
00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:30,880
even aside from kind of these i mean

470
00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:32,400
these are supposed to be well adapted

471
00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:34,160
you know forest

472
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:36,000
forest men that can

473
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:38,799
fluidly travel up and down

474
00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:39,600
uh

475
00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:42,320
mountainsides and one that looks kind of

476
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:44,559
awkward but that's beside the point

477
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:54,549
okay i see i see it

478
00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:55,679
yeah

479
00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:57,039
the direction of the camera doesn't make

480
00:18:02,150 --> 00:17:59,440
a whole lot of sense to me and then

481
00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:02,160
even even with even if you were to shoot

482
00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:04,880
that perfectly i can't

483
00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:07,039
i can't rule out

484
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:08,720
not a

485
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:14,870
yeah and it just seems convenient to me

486
00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:17,600
the framing of it like how how if you're

487
00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:19,280
how are you not getting the whole thing

488
00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:20,960
in frame you're only getting half of it

489
00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:23,520
in the frame you know the or it just

490
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,200
seems to me to be conveniently shaky and

491
00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:29,600
yeah and i think that that's kind of a i

492
00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:31,440
think that that

493
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is

494
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:34,720
maybe was part of the

495
00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:37,280
the appeal as well as not like you

496
00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:39,520
always criticize evidence that's like

497
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:41,120
perfect right you're like wow how'd you

498
00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,120
get it so like steady and like you know

499
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:47,039
you know but it almost like they're like

500
00:18:51,190 --> 00:18:49,520
accounting for that criticism

501
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,200
but it almost feels contrived in that

502
00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:53,840
sense as well like from the other end so

503
00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:55,200
i don't know

504
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:57,360
like yeah are we gonna blair witch it or

505
00:19:01,830 --> 00:18:59,840
are we gonna stanley kubrick at you know

506
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:01,840
i don't know something

507
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:04,400
in between i guess well you know one of

508
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:05,600
the other things i wanted to ask you

509
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:08,559
about is that i found evidence that uh

510
00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:10,880
todd standing used stills

511
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:14,480
of these films i found that

512
00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:16,480
it was very very convenient that in all

513
00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:17,520
these

514
00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:20,240
bigfoot face shots there is

515
00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:22,400
branches or different leaves different

516
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,960
things obscuring the face

517
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,840
and then i found that he had basically

518
00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:29,360
i believe

519
00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:31,760
multiple takes because he has stills

520
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,160
where the stick is on this side

521
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:36,080
then he has stills where the stick is on

522
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:39,280
this side or the leaf moves over here or

523
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:41,679
it doesn't make any sense and i tried to

524
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,600
say well maybe the stick moved or fell

525
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:45,360
or it's a branch no

526
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:47,520
it seemed very clear to me that he took

527
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:49,520
multiple takes of this footage and then

528
00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:51,120
took stills

529
00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:53,600
and and in each of these films it's very

530
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,360
convenient that there is

531
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:58,000
you know an attempt to obscure

532
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:59,360
or you know

533
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:00,320
hide

534
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:03,840
parts of the face and also in

535
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:06,400
the blinking bothered me i went and i

536
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:10,080
looked at footage of uh of different ape

537
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,760
species gorillas orangutans and monkeys

538
00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:15,840
too in the wild

539
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:18,880
and you know their heads move they blink

540
00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:20,880
their brows move

541
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:22,240
they chew

542
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:24,640
you know maybe they're eating something

543
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:26,159
there's just not enough movement in

544
00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,440
these shots to me there's no blinking in

545
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:31,919
most of it except for the black uh faced

546
00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:32,840
one

547
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:35,760
so there's just a lot of problems with

548
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:36,880
the footage

549
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:38,880
and i thought it was funny like uh joe

550
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:41,120
rogan is not a fan of this guy todd

551
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,080
standing and said you know if bigfoot

552
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,840
people think you're full of [\h__\h] you're

553
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:47,520
you're probably full of [\h__\h] you know

554
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,880
right

555
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:50,880
and as far as the black man the

556
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:54,000
blackface footage i i thought i thought

557
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:55,360
i nailed him

558
00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:56,159
um

559
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,919
i thought i didn't have to go that far

560
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:59,280
but yeah that's pretty good i'm gonna

561
00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:01,280
i'm gonna solo this and look you could

562
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:03,919
see if i put it in front of my face

563
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,559
you know if i lined up a shot right with

564
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,960
leaves and things around just like that

565
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:11,039
and i just blinked you know and you're

566
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:13,200
only going to see this small portion of

567
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,480
the face

568
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:16,400
i thought yeah i have a huge collection

569
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,320
of masks and weird things and i went

570
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,480
through my stuff because i remembered

571
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,320
this mask and i said

572
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:24,400
that could be a very easy way to

573
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,320
accomplish that shot

574
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:28,320
and i even for a time thought you know

575
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,080
i'm like trying to match up the brow

576
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,640
ridges and stuff maybe this is the exact

577
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:34,159
thing that he used but i don't think so

578
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:37,120
any any longer it doesn't quite match

579
00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:38,799
but i'm sure i could recreate that

580
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,120
footage very well with something like as

581
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,640
a ten dollar foam mater you know or my

582
00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:46,320
my thought on that is there's no mask

583
00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:48,240
it's just like grease paint that's what

584
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:50,080
i believe yeah

585
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:52,159
you watch those old like uh

586
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,080
marine corps recruitment commercials

587
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:56,400
there's dudes with like that black [\h__\h]

588
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,280
on their face yeah yeah and and you know

589
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:01,039
as far as the walking or the running

590
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:02,080
footage

591
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:03,600
one time you know i have a cabin in the

592
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:05,840
mountains and i hike a lot one time i

593
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:08,320
was hiking in the mountains during uh

594
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:09,840
hunting season

595
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,440
and there was a guy i don't know what is

596
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:13,520
it called a guinea suit or a gunny suit

597
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:17,520
you know there's yeah gilly suit yeah so

598
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:20,559
out of the corner of my eye i see a guy

599
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,840
like jumping up the up the trail like

600
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:24,799
you know

601
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,600
booking too and at first glance i

602
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:29,360
thought that might be a big like that

603
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:31,120
could be a bigfoot it looked very

604
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:32,880
similar to this footage that we see it's

605
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:33,600
just

606
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,760
this whole suit of

607
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:37,840
stuff and it looks

608
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:41,600
inhuman or something so i'm just i guess

609
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,320
most of me is left very unconvinced

610
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,480
because i believe that i could recreate

611
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:48,720
all of this footage

612
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:51,280
and at my cabin in the backyard really

613
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:52,960
you know

614
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:55,280
yeah it boils down even especially in

615
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,559
this day and age it's going to boil down

616
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,280
to putting a body on a slab i i don't

617
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,880
personally

618
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:02,880
care about proving the existence one way

619
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:04,400
or the other it would be interesting i

620
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,480
guess but i just you know i gravitate

621
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:08,400
towards the phenomenon in general

622
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:10,159
but like

623
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:13,440
with with this stuff it's like

624
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,679
he got dudes that i respect

625
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:20,400
uh that's another issue

626
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:23,919
yeah him and jeff melvin uh meldrum

627
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:25,280
and i'm just like

628
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,720
like i'll i get it though like

629
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,400
especially in these you know these kind

630
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:30,080
of

631
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,960
niche

632
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,039
study areas of study or whatever like

633
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:35,280
i'll listen to anybody but i'm gonna be

634
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,640
honest about

635
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:39,120
you know how i feel about it and

636
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,159
you know if that hurts someone's

637
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,640
feelings sorry i mean just the way it is

638
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:45,120
i'm gonna be honest but it's just very

639
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,559
like

640
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,279
it's very weird to me that

641
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:50,799
those two

642
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:52,640
signed on to this

643
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:54,799
yeah and one of them who has passed away

644
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:57,360
the wildlife biologist sure he he

645
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,120
basically endorsed the footage as

646
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:01,360
genuine but i found it odd that you

647
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:03,120
would have jeff meldrum in your

648
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,120
documentary and jeff meldrum never

649
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:07,840
comments on whether he believes this is

650
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:10,000
real footage or not yeah i've reached

651
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,919
out to mr uh dr meldrum uh i don't know

652
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,000
many many times i've i've left them

653
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,240
voicemails i've sent him emails and i

654
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:20,400
simply want him to tell me does he

655
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:22,240
believe that that footage is a real

656
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,279
creature or is it something else and he

657
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:27,600
he won't get back to me which to me

658
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,320
is very very odd like why would you be

659
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,480
in a documentary and then a media person

660
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,400
reaches out to you and you won't answer

661
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,760
one question

662
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:37,760
it's a simple question but i believe

663
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:41,840
that that standing perhaps

664
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:44,080
i'm told i have a source which told me

665
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:46,240
that anybody can hire jeff meldrum for a

666
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,799
certain price to be in any project he'll

667
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,960
you know he'll go and he'll talk or be a

668
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:52,480
part of it or whatever

669
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:55,360
so maybe it's the

670
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,559
uh

671
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,120
todd standing purchased some credibility

672
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:01,360
in the form of dr meldrum

673
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:02,799
and um

674
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:06,080
that's that's what i believe because

675
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:07,760
todd standing

676
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:10,159
has been mentioning

677
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,960
uh his involvement with with dr meldrum

678
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,400
since that happened

679
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:17,200
he says things like dr meldrum trained

680
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:18,799
me and that was another question trained

681
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,200
you to do what i don't understand you

682
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,440
know right but it seems to me that he he

683
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:25,919
does it in a name-dropping kind of way

684
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:28,000
he's always mentioning his time with

685
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:30,799
survivor man and dr meldrup in an

686
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:33,520
attempt to kind of uh gain himself some

687
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:39,909
yeah um

688
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,159
i i hate to

689
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,240
consider those types of uh things when

690
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,400
we're you know just truth junkies trying

691
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:48,799
to figure out one way or the other but i

692
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:50,720
i got nothing but respect for for

693
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:52,720
meldrum it just kind of rubbed me the

694
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:54,640
wrong way that you know

695
00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,840
you're right everyone's got a price like

696
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,679
i don't blame a guy for take taking

697
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:59,360
money to be a part of a documentary like

698
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:01,120
that's totally fine and it's an

699
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,640
interesting point you bring out there is

700
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:04,480
no footage in that documentary that i've

701
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:05,840
seen at least or now that you pointed

702
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:08,880
out that he's not necessarily even fully

703
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:11,360
endorsing that as

704
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:14,400
legitimate footage so yeah yeah and then

705
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:17,360
todd standing makes other claims that i

706
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:20,159
haven't heard dr meldrum substantiate

707
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,840
you know there was he was out there with

708
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,600
todd standing and they're out in the

709
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,919
dark and something ran through the woods

710
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:27,760
and he's telling

711
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:29,919
dr meldrum that's a bigfoot you had a

712
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:32,799
bigfoot encounter and later todd

713
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:35,840
standing keeps saying i got dr meldrum

714
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:38,960
to see a bigfoot 30 feet from him

715
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:41,120
but we don't get him to say yeah i

716
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,159
believe you know it could have been

717
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,039
anything scurrying off in the woods

718
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,440
deer whatever we don't get the

719
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:50,159
endorsement of of of todd standings

720
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,760
claims about dr meldrup we just get

721
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:56,240
sort of like i said this this supposed

722
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:58,080
credibility that he gets from being

723
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,840
involved with the doctor of anthropology

724
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,679
sure

725
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,080
yeah and he uh he and bindernagel i

726
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:08,080
think as far as i know are the are the

727
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,880
two

728
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,880
accredited

729
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,200
yeah from academia they're the phd

730
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:14,960
experts yeah

731
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,520
um not that i put all my weight into

732
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,840
that stuff especially the last two years

733
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:21,679
or so but uh

734
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:24,159
uh you know it is what it is and you

735
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,080
know those are the experts we recognize

736
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:28,240
as a you know as a culture or society

737
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,320
and and it is nice to have someone

738
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:32,080
that's you know trained

739
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,200
uh

740
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,760
i mean it's like meldrum's specialty is

741
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:38,000
literally like anthropological feat or

742
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,039
like foot

743
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,000
podiatry locomotion yeah but yeah

744
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,159
just like you couldn't ask for a better

745
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:46,320
person to be into this um

746
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,360
you know

747
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:49,760
and he's in the right location for uh

748
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,440
investigating this kind of stuff but

749
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:53,520
yeah i i don't know like again all i can

750
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:54,640
say is

751
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,760
um

752
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:57,440
again i'm not

753
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:00,399
one to speculate or smear or or

754
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,960
you're very diplomatic bob i am because

755
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:05,279
i like that about you though i like that

756
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,039
because i like to be you know i'll get

757
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,960
uh you're very fair you're being very

758
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,880
very fair yeah but all i could do is

759
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,399
look at the footage and just give you my

760
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,039
opinion and it's really i'll put it to

761
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,600
you this way that said it's very very

762
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:19,039
hard

763
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:20,960
to look at this footage in a vacuum

764
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:23,120
without considering all the external

765
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,039
context of everything we've just talked

766
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,360
about in the last five six minutes right

767
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,440
yeah so yeah that's what i wanted i

768
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,360
wanted to give you

769
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,200
my initial reaction to that footage

770
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:35,440
initially and then you know

771
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,039
now based on everything we're saying

772
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,720
it's like well

773
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,640
that's a lot of wrenches in the gears

774
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:43,039
right so yeah and i don't know if you uh

775
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:44,559
i i don't know if you looked at the

776
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,159
final video we're not going to do it

777
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,120
here because it's it's kind of long and

778
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,440
well but the point is i also found

779
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:53,279
additional evidence that raised a lot of

780
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,960
questions like one of todd standings big

781
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,200
other money shots is look i've set up

782
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,440
these apples on a log

783
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,080
and the bigfoots are taking the logs

784
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,320
i happen to find a random youtuber that

785
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:08,720
went on a hike with him rode in his car

786
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:09,840
with him

787
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,480
uh with another with another girl

788
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:15,360
and uh they commented that todd standing

789
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,679
had a bigfoot glove in the back seat of

790
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,039
his truck

791
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:21,440
and that to me was kind of funny like

792
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:23,919
gee i wonder how a bigfoot hand is

793
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:26,080
taking these apples off this tree and

794
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,679
even in the footage you can't tell it's

795
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,960
a bigfoot hand

796
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:31,520
he claims it is you know why would he

797
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,760
have a bigfoot glove in the back of back

798
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,880
of his car

799
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,360
if my wife is accusing me of cheating on

800
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:39,120
her why would i put

801
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,240
you know a brazier or a woman's pair of

802
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:44,159
earrings in my car

803
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,360
you know what i mean like it's like the

804
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,039
same kind of thing because this guy

805
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,919
knows that he's he's not

806
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,919
trusted by everyone right

807
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:53,600
sure yeah so

808
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:56,000
that's it's very bold to have a bigfoot

809
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:57,279
glove in the back of your car i guess

810
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,200
that's what i'm saying um

811
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,200
yeah uh it's

812
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,919
it's dodgy man it just is it is what it

813
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:04,720
is

814
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:07,279
and yeah and i think you know let's

815
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,279
one way or the other i think just just

816
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,120
talking on hoaxing in general it doesn't

817
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:13,520
do anyone any favors that's

818
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:15,679
well it does do him some favors though

819
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:16,799
because

820
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,159
thing i noticed that gave me a great

821
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,039
deal of concern is that since he's made

822
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:25,360
this documentary todd standing has

823
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,559
reused

824
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,720
parts of that documentary on his youtube

825
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:30,720
channel with monetized views getting

826
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:33,279
great numbers over and over and over and

827
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,559
over again for years now and he is also

828
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,279
taking money from people to take them

829
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,360
promising them that they will have a

830
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,880
bigfoot encounter

831
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,880
and i have a problem with that like you

832
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,559
better have some proof that if you're

833
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,399
charging people money to see a bigfoot

834
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:50,640
that that's really a bigfoot or to me

835
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:52,640
that would be consumer fraud or a form

836
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:55,120
of it right sure that's my take

837
00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:56,960
i mean is that

838
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,159
where i mean where do you draw the line

839
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,240
with that versus like i guess a ghost

840
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:02,320
tour is he actually advertising i will

841
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:05,440
show you an actual legitimate bigfoot

842
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:09,039
i well he he he says uh you know it's

843
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,159
kind of like the odd wording like i take

844
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:14,159
people out and you will have a bigfoot

845
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,919
encounter what does that mean does that

846
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,880
mean that

847
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,480
somebody's going to take apples off a

848
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:20,240
tree or something's going to scurry off

849
00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:21,440
in the woods and he's going to say

850
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,519
that's a bigfoot or you're going to hear

851
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:25,039
a bigfoot call

852
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,480
he's got callers

853
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:28,559
hearing a story about a big foot around

854
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:29,279
yeah

855
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,000
technically a bigfoot encounter

856
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:33,760
yeah

857
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:37,760
if somebody if somebody said hey you

858
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:40,480
could pay 500 and you're going to see a

859
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:44,640
bigfoot i guarantee it i would sign up

860
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,200
probably right but he's not given a real

861
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,960
guarantee

862
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:50,960
how do you what what's your take on his

863
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:53,279
whole uh

864
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:55,360
didn't he try to get some policy in

865
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:58,000
place in in canada to uh yeah he tried

866
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,679
to get it

867
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:01,679
haven't become a protective city do you

868
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,000
think that's publicity i think that's

869
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,240
publicity stunts and then also

870
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:08,799
recently he made some videos claiming

871
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:11,120
that there was a group of powerful

872
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,880
people with all kinds of equipment and

873
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,240
money and they were going to go shoot a

874
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,320
bigfoot and he was going to be an

875
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:18,880
advisor and then he backpedaled on that

876
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:21,519
and said no no i was just yeah you know

877
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,960
uh the enemy of my enemy you know i was

878
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:26,799
like you know

879
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,480
checking them out and looking at their

880
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,640
plans and all this difference it's this

881
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:33,120
big wild story and my thing is let me

882
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,200
talk to that group of people

883
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:37,200
i don't think they exist i think that he

884
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:39,279
makes up stories

885
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:44,159
it it feels kind of david wilcocky

886
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:45,679
hey that's a good term that's a good

887
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,320
adjective david wilcock yes

888
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,720
you know it's

889
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:52,399
and that's the thing too that's i feel

890
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,840
like what's happened with the internet

891
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,600
now and you know

892
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:57,120
it's a double-edged sword but it's

893
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:58,960
almost given

894
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,679
you know i don't know gurus or you know

895
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:04,320
ufo cult people or whatever you don't

896
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,480
have to congregate in one location you

897
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,840
can just harvest them

898
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,600
from the net

899
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:11,519
and get him a little chat like this and

900
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,640
you know here we go here's our

901
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:14,799
congregation of the uh the church of the

902
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:16,960
bigfoot or whatever

903
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:18,960
yeah yeah and it kind of preys on

904
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:20,799
people's vulnerabilities or desire to

905
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:22,720
believe in something you know bigger

906
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,159
than themselves or bigger than what

907
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:27,360
society allows them to believe in uh

908
00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:28,240
and

909
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,919
at the same time it's a great way for

910
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,960
people that are legitimately

911
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,640
investigating this stuff to get together

912
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,720
and exchange information so

913
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:36,080
you just got to sift through the crap

914
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:37,120
and and that's kind of what i was

915
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,080
getting out of the beginning when i was

916
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:40,080
talking to you is like i've i've more or

917
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,440
less

918
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,960
trained myself into a realm of

919
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:45,120
discernment when it comes to corporate

920
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,679
media or advertisers and things like

921
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:49,279
that where i know it's [\h__\h] because

922
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:51,440
it usually is it's not that hard once

923
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,519
you realize like oh it's basically all

924
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,760
lies right at the very least it's a

925
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,200
shadow of the truth with an agenda

926
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,360
behind it right with individuals like

927
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:01,200
you said i'm i'm a lot more diplomatic

928
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:05,120
because i i i find it harder to

929
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,960
not give individuals the benefit of the

930
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,720
doubt with institution there's very

931
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:10,079
little accountability there and it's

932
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,599
just kind of the nature of how

933
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,480
institutions work i want to trust people

934
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,399
and and i guess i'm trying to develop

935
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,800
that level of discernment with when

936
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,399
you're talking to small groups or less

937
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:22,079
powerful people or less powerful groups

938
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:25,200
because they're just as prone to

939
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,240
um

940
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:28,159
pulling the wool over your eyes as you

941
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,520
know absolutely absolutely or cnn

942
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,280
you know one of the things that bothers

943
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:35,520
me about the footage is that uh it would

944
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:38,240
take me three times as much effort to

945
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:41,520
prove that it's fake that it took him to

946
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,240
create it you know because maybe i'll do

947
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:46,639
some recreations but still some people

948
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:49,119
will be convinced that no that's really

949
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,119
a big foot you know that that's truly a

950
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:53,760
big confirmation bias wanting to believe

951
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,399
it

952
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:56,399
apparently yeah yeah

953
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:57,920
yeah

954
00:35:01,589 --> 00:35:00,160
but that's the thing too with this like

955
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:01,599
i guess this is kind of redundant but

956
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,920
you're starting from the premise of this

957
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:05,359
is a bigfoot

958
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,240
and then you look at it and you choose

959
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:10,000
is this a bigfoot or is this not a

960
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,800
bigfoot it's not like this

961
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,560
might be a bigfoot it's like no no here

962
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,480
it is here's the bigfoot and then it's

963
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,040
like well

964
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:21,119
most people are like that's ridiculous

965
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:22,640
and then people that want to believe it

966
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:25,839
are like sure why not you know

967
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,800
it reinforces your your confirmation

968
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,200
bias or world view or you know i think

969
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,760
there's a lot of there's a lot of hunger

970
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,359
in this these types of community there's

971
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:37,839
a lot of hunger for ci told you so type

972
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:40,320
stuff uh yeah even for even for people

973
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,079
that aren't trying to monetize it people

974
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:44,240
that are just you know i'm you know i'm

975
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,680
more or less one of them in my family

976
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,280
people are just like oh that's bobby

977
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:50,320
he's into some kind of unorthodox things

978
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,000
you know yeah you're like the weird

979
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,240
uncle that talks about conspiracies

980
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:56,560
that's exactly right right yeah i am too

981
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,720
so we yeah yeah yeah

982
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,320
every time you know one of my i don't

983
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:01,920
know not even predictions but it's like

984
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:04,079
the things i say are gonna happen i'm

985
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:05,920
got a pretty good track record as far as

986
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:08,800
like geopolitics and things like that go

987
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:10,880
and you know six months ago you're crazy

988
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,160
and then it comes around in the in the

989
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,480
regular news cycle yeah that's about the

990
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,920
that's the i don't notice that yeah

991
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,000
that's just six months yeah yeah there's

992
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,400
a six month cycle now between conspiracy

993
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:22,079
oh that's a conspiracy that's a nutty

994
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:23,520
conspiracy too

995
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:27,200
oh no that was true yeah yeah yeah

996
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,320
definitely

997
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,000
you know well i appreciate you doing

998
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:32,480
this and being so diplomatic and fair i

999
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:36,160
i have tried to be fair and uh and i'm

1000
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:38,079
bringing in every expert that i could

1001
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,440
think of that i thought would be

1002
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:41,440
qualified to decide if this is real